I Will Become Regional Manager by Dwight Shrute

From time to time, we all struggle with work. After all, no matter what we do, none of us are going to love our jobs all of the time. But what if you’re dealing with a uniquely difficult work problem that just won’t go away? Many of us have probably had horrible bosses, annoying coworkers, boring projects or incompetent new hires to contend with at some point in our careers before. And when that happens, it’s easy to feel like there’s no way to make things better. So the majority of us throw our hands up, shrug, and say: “That’s life.”

Our latest coaching client is in a position much like this. He’s an office worker at a mid-level paper company in Scranton, Pennsylvania — Dwight Schrute is his name. Dwight is hardworking, smart, calculated, determined and, above all, tenacious. By all means, he has the skills to quickly and efficiently rise through his company and enter a management position someday. But Dwight has just one problem: he can’t seem to get anything done because his coworker, Jim, keeps getting in his way. More than simply frustrating him, Dwight feels bullied by Jim, who seeks out every opportunity to make Dwight’s life miserable. 

How can Dwight solve his annoying coworker problem? Is there a way for him to move past Jim’s constant heckling so that he can clinch his dreams of becoming the new Regional Manager of his business, Dunder Mifflin? In order to get answers to these questions, Dwight has written to The Journal That Talks Back for coaching support. Let’s look at Dwight’s first journal and start getting some information about the struggles he’s currently facing.   

Dwight’s first journal entry

Entry One:

“I already said how fast I am (somewhere between a snake and a mongoose), but somehow I am never able to outpace Jim…. probably because he’s a part of the CIA or something… the damned GOVERNMENT… OF COURSE! Even when I leave him be, he’s always colluding with Pam to bully me, and I’m just tired of it. I have lodged many formal complaints with Toby over the past years, and nothing seems to get done. I can’t be perfect at my job when there are bear traps at every turn! I want to do my job as Assistant Regional Manager and one day take over Dunder Mifflin itself… MWAHAHAHAHA. Please help.” — Dwight K. S.

First impressions: understand Dwight’s relationships

Alright. So, clearly, there’s a lot of personality going on in this first journal. And that’s perfectly okay! But before we dig into Dwight’s idiosyncrasies, and before we can assess what he wants out of this coaching relationship, we first have to contend with all the different people he’s just introduced to us. We don’t want to assume we know anything about the others he’s mentioned — Jim, Pam and Toby — even if Dwight’s already given us some minor behavioral details about the people in his life. 

At the same time, while we don’t want to assume anything about them, we don’t necessarily need Jim’s, Pam’s or Toby’s sides of the story in this situation. Why? Because, as far as helping Dwight goes, it doesn’t actually matter what they think is going on. In order to help Dwight, we simply need to empathize with what he’s perceiving — and right now, his perception is that he’s being bullied in the workplace. So the kinds of questions we’re going to pose to Dwight should help color our understanding of how he feels he’s being impeded by the relationships in his life.

For instance, we might ask: What’s your relationship with Jim and Pam been like in years past? We could even dig deeper and explore other relationships in his life by asking: If you’re the Assistant Regional Manager, who do you report to? And what does your role mean to you — what makes it so important that it’s worth rising above your colleagues to become Regional Manager?

Once we have a solid understanding of how Dwight perceives the people in his life and how they impact him, we can really start to work through the problems he’s experiencing. That will in turn help us decide how to assist Dwight in getting what he wants: a work environment where he can succeed without the threat of “bear traps” in his way. 

dwight jello prank

Next: ask Dwight if his relationships make it impossible to succeed

So far, there’s been a lot of black-and-white thinking going on in Dwight’s mind. He believes that Jim needs to be removed from the company in order for him to succeed and become Regional Manager of Dunder Mifflin. He also insists that Jim and Pam are spying on him, and that Toby cannot do anything to help. In order to help break Dwight out of his narrow state of mind, it might help if we ask him some follow-up questions. This might be how that exchange would go down:


“Do you believe that you can’t work your way up in the company if Jim doesn’t get in trouble?”


“Of course I can’t become the ruler of Dunder Mifflin when Jim is always getting in the way.”


This is a short response, but it gives us some great insight into how Dwight sees the world around him. Much like his first journal entry, this response shows that Dwight is still concerned with the fact that he’s unable to succeed with Jim in the picture. What we’ve also learned is that his greatest goal is to earn the title of Regional Manager at his company branch. 

Like many of us who work in office settings, Dwight is faced with lots of roadblocks to his professional success — he’s got competition, there’s a corporate structure that impedes his ascent to a managerial position, and more. These are the biggest hurdles Dwight’s looking to overcome, and now that we’ve unearthed them, we can more effectively help. In short: we’ve identified the crux of how Dwight views his problem, and we’ve brought to light the conveniences, assumptions or pitfalls in his beliefs that might be impeding him. 

Now we can start posing some possibilities to Dwight. We might ask him: If you went to work and pretended Jim didn’t even exist, how would that impact your day? Would you be happier or feel better? And it might be hard to imagine a world without obstacles for Dwight, but when he’s challenged to do so, it might change his perceptions. 

After all, Dwight seems like someone who’s very intent, rigid and tenacious. He doesn’t appear to be someone who would let something like an annoying coworker stop him from getting what he wants. So why is he putting so much focus on what’s stopping him? Might it be possible for him to focus on the good things in his life — his work ethic, his personal and romantic relationships, and his positive connection with the current Regional Manager — instead of the bad?

We might challenge Dwight to focus on what allows him to grow, instead of what holds him back. By presenting him with that reality, we can help Dwight continue to be the tenacious, goal-driven individual he appears to be, while also giving him permission to let go of the relationships that aren’t serving him. 

The check-in: three months later   

Alright. We’ve gone and given Dwight some opportunities and goals to work toward. After taking a step back for several months and letting Dwight work at his new goals, we’ve returned to find a much more level-headed and motivated employee — although his continued hopes of taking over the world are still a little off-putting. Here’s what Dwight’s written in his latest journal: 

Closing Journal:

“So, a lot has changed over the past few months. Jim has been really busy with his offspring and… what’s her name again…Ham? That’s right! I’m now Regional Manager, and I’m getting married to my monkey, Angela, at my personal beet farm, of course. It will be a wonderful wedding, or Hochzeit Des Jahres, as we Schrutes like to say. I guess things do work out after all. Life is good at the top.”

It looks like things have really worked out for Dwight! It seems like focusing on the positive parts of his life has been far more rewarding for him than when he was constantly committed to fixating on the most difficult aspects of his day. We’re also noticing Dwight is opening up more about his romantic relationship, which is something he wasn’t disclosing much about previously. All in all, seeing Dwight rise to the position of Regional Manager while also tending to his love life is a very encouraging sign that he’s on the right path. 

Taken together, we’ve helped Dwight gain some ease and peace in his life while also providing him with the tools to keep things afloat if life gets rocky again. And that’s really the goal of great coaching: it’s all about helping people see new possibilities in their lives while also giving them the tools to navigate their biggest, thorniest problems. 

Dwight hasn’t been our easiest client, but he’s been a joy and a reward to work with. Check out our Character Coaching podcast to see how we’ve helped other (definitely real) characters . And if you want to have the kind of coaching experience we’ve just demonstrated with Dwight, check out The Journal That Talks Back for more information about how we operate. 

Episode Transcript

Jon Rom: [00:00:00] Character coaching is an exploration of coaching principles applied to fictional characters by the hosts. Any likeness to real people or situations is coincidental. And none of the advice given is intended to take the place of real coaching. Learn more about getting accessible coaching at the thejournalthattalksback.com

Jonathan Friedman: I'm Jonathan and I'm John

Jon Rom: and is Character Coaching, coaching, character,

Jonathan Friedman: Character Coaching, Ching Ching, Ching, Ching.

Jon Rom: And we're going to what... John?

You're gonna hit me up with all you're going to read the thing. And we'll go from there. Check our story, get the story. Identifying beliefs.

Jonathan Friedman: Yeah, of course. I'm going to hit you with this sweet, sweet journal

Jon Rom: hit me. Hit me with a sweet, sweet.

Jonathan Friedman: All right, John, we got a new journal today and I, I took a quick read through before.

I know we're not supposed to do that, but I'm excited about this one. I think I think we'll get we'll cover some good ground today.

Jon Rom: Oh, if I, if you're excited, I'm excited.

Jonathan Friedman: I figured as much. Alright. This journal is titled. 'I Will Become Regional Manager'. I already said how fast I am somewhere between a snake and a mongoose.

But somehow I was never able to pace Jim, probably because he is a part of the CIA or something. The damned government, of course, even when I leave him be he is always colluding with Pam to bully me and I am just tired. I have large, many formal complaints with Toby over the past years and nothing ever seems to get done.

I can't be perfect at my job where there are bear traps set of return. I want to do my job as assistant regional manager and one-day takeover Dunder Mifflin itself (evil laugh) Please help Dwight K. S...

Jon Rom: Wow.

Jonathan Friedman: It's the mwahahas that got me.

Jon Rom: I mean, what, what expressive language, but  I'm are we, are we meeting this person in media Rez or are you a.

Are you familiar with this person? Have you been reading their journals already or is this journal numero UNO?

Jonathan Friedman: So they just submitted this first journal and I appreciate how much they were willing to share on the first time. I don't know that I don't know, Dwight, we don't have a long-standing relationship together and this is just that first shuttle, but I think he has a good sense of, you know, himself, like, especially his speed being as fast as a snake and a mongoose put together.

Jon Rom: I like the comparison I've I guess I, well, I guess Mar mung mongoose's mongeese eat snakes. So I guess one has to be slightly faster than the other. So I guess, among what is, what is, it's a really, it's a philosophical question that people haven't been able to answer throughout history. What is a mongoose?

You know the science is out on it.

Jonathan Friedman: It's like a really small lemur/cat.

Jon Rom: Is that, is that from doctor internet or do you just know that off the top?

Jonathan Friedman: I'd love to say that I knew that off the top of my head

Jon Rom: and I'd been impressed. So it sounds like we're going to have a really fun time checking our story, which means we'll take note of all our own beliefs and experiences and biases to try to focus directly on what was written in this post, which is going to be an interesting exercise I'm sure.

And then we're going to get the story, or at least try to get the story after acknowledging our own beliefs and experiences, we can take the time to ask all of the questions and get all those juicy, juicy details from the journal post.

Jonathan Friedman: Those spicy nugs and

Jon Rom: nugs. Ah, so yummy. Don't make me, don't make me hungry this early in the day.

Jonathan Friedman: I'm sorry for those of you that don't know, it's 4:00 AM over here and all we do is record the podcast.

Jon Rom: I it's, it's actually 1:00 AM and I am still recording a podcast. We never stopped recording a podcast. From what I understand, the recording is always going life's about a podcast,

Jonathan Friedman: but it's that kind of like method acting.

Yeah. Always,

Jon Rom: never not pocket and never not podcasting. Exactly.

Jonathan Friedman: So when we're, when we're approaching a journal like this, there's a lot of stories. There's a lot of character, there's a lot of personalities. You said that piece of it, checking your story. And what are some of the things that you want to note that you might want to not make assumptions about?

Jon Rom: Well, I would say that I don't know who any of these people are. We have, we have three characters, four characters. We have Dwight himself to contend with, but he's introduced three people into our lives. Now, Jim, Pam, and Toby, I don't know anything about Jim, Pam, and Toby, and despite what I might have.

From what he said, I don't want to make too many assumptions about his relationship with them. And I don't want to put in my own biases about my own experiences with the bullying Pam's in the world or the super-fast gyms, or even the bossy Toby's in my life


Jonathan Friedman: Pam's and Karen's the same thing.

Jon Rom: Every Karen's middle name is legally Pam. If you look at, in the charter of rights and freedoms, but

Jonathan Friedman: not Pamela, just

Jon Rom: Pam does Pam. Yeah, no, there are, there are no Pamela's in the wild. All Pamela is, are built in a

Jonathan Friedman: lab, just 'mongeese' so. I love that because when there's a journal like this, that has already, there's a lot of stories.

There's a lot of character, there's so much personality. It's really easy to get caught up in it and just say, oh yeah, you know, like Pam and Jim are bullying, but we don't know what that bullying looks like. We don't know Dwight's relationship with Pam and Jim or Toby. We don't know really what's going on other than his wanting to outpatient.

The fact that there might be a tenuous relationship between Jim and PIM jam and PIM Jim and Pam and Kim that one's saying. And that was

And that he feels like his complaints about the unfairness of what's going on in his workplace. Presumably, because he's talking about assistant regional manager managers and Dunder Mifflin.

That's all we know. And we also know that he has a goal of becoming of, of moving up in his company. And that's all we know. So what we have to do, as you said, is take some time to get the story. And the way we do that is by asking questions, we're looking for all the juicy details.

Jon Rom: Yeah. And I think, I think there's a, a good lesson here and assuming positive intent, you know, he does.

Want to be bullied. He's tired of it. And so even if, even if we were to get Jim and Pam's side of things effectively, we can say the Dwight is, is saying. I feel like I'm being bullied and that's, you know, effectively, that's what matters when it comes to our coaching is how are you feeling? What perspective are you bringing to the table?

Because that's going to be the thing that we want to affect and effect.

Jonathan Friedman: Exactly we're only ever really looking at, especially in this case, we're not looking necessarily at Him at Jamp and PIM Jim and Pam or Toby stories. We're looking at Dwight and how he perceives his world.

Jon Rom: Yeah, exactly.

Jonathan Friedman: So John, what are some of the questions that you would ask to elicit or get some of those spicy nugs or juicy details from Dwight?

Jon Rom: Hmm, that's a good question. There's so much I want to ask. I, I think, I think I would start simple. I would just say. Who are, who are Jim, Pam and Toby, just explain, explain in literal terms, you know are they, her coworkers are on the same level as you in the company. Clearly, Toby is someone you can file complaints to.

What's your relationship in the past with them? I would just want to understand the context for it.

Jonathan Friedman: And also Dwight, it refers to himself as assistant regional manager, who is the regional manager? What does being an assistant regional manager mean? What does his role as an assistant manager mean to him?

Let's learn a bit more about that.

Jon Rom: I mean, I guess, I guess we could, we could cheat a little and look up Dunder Mifflin. I'm going to, I'm going to look it up real quick.

Jonathan Friedman: Oh God, I can't wait.

Jon Rom: Okay. I am getting, oh, that's weird. I'm getting an IMDB page. No, that can't be right. Maybe I spelled it wrong.

Let me try it again.

Okay. So, Nope. It's a Wikipedia article on dander and muffins. Okay. I don't know. I don't know what they do. I wonder maybe we should ask.

Jonathan Friedman: That's why we never want to make assumptions about what's going on. We don't know if Dunder Mifflin is about muffins. If they're about, I don't know, something as ridiculous as selling paper or if they're, you know like it's a play that Dwight is writing and it has its IMDB page.

Jon Rom: Jonathan, why would you ever need to sell paper? It grows on trees.

Jonathan Friedman: Is that how it works?

Jon Rom: I think so.

Jonathan Friedman: So one of the questions that I want to ask Dwight is I want to dig into that relationship between Dwight his work and Jim. So the question that I wanted to ask is, do you believe that you can't work your way up in the company if Jim doesn't get in trouble? Is Dwight's success specifically pinned on whether Jim gets into trouble or not?

Jon Rom: Yeah. If he, he, he mentioned bear traps, it seems that he needs to get Jim out of his way. At least from his point of view, he needs to get out of his way to climb that ladder to the top, it seems it seems like an adversarial way to look at things.

And maybe we should, maybe we should dig into that.

Jonathan Friedman: Yeah. And we can even ask a question, like, what does that bullying look like? What, what is happening with Jim and Pam and Dwight daily? What are those complaints that Dwight has filed? Because those complaints are kind of like journals in themselves and we can sort of getting a bit more history, a bit more literal data into understanding what's been going on over these past few seasons. I mean, years,

Jon Rom: Well... Seasons, seasons... summer, winter. Fall spraying to make up the care. Exactly.

Jonathan Friedman: John, did you have any other questions that you know, are burning in your mind that you thinking of that you want to attack when we're asking Dwight some questions?

Jon Rom: Well, other, other than where he falls on the snake to mongoose scale I guess I'd want to know, have any of the complaints ever been lodged directly to Jim?

Has he ever talked to Jim about it? Or has there ever been a conversation here? You know, what's what, how does Dwight express himself when talking. To a Jim. And what ideas does he communicate and how effectively does he think he communicates those ideas?

Jonathan Friedman: I think these are all wonderful questions.

I'm going to throw one Dwight's way and we're going to take a little break and we'll see what he answers.

Jon Rom: Yeah. Let's see what sticks.

Jonathan Friedman: Let's see what sticks the spaghetti.

Two months of passed and we're back here. I, I just got a notification on my phone that we just got a reply from our good friend Dwight over here. So we asked him a couple of months ago, way back when, back in the day, do you believe that you can't work your way up in the company? If Jim doesn't get into.

And we got a pretty good response. I think John, are you ready?

Jon Rom: I mean, I've been on the edge of my seat the entire time as you know, right.

Jonathan Friedman: Taken up that real estate. Exactly. So Dwight came back with a pretty short response, but I think it's impactful and gives us some different ideas of where we can go.

So Dwight replied, of course, I can't become the ruler of Dunder Mifflin when Jim is always getting in the way. And John what's one of the first things that pop out to you when you hear that reply?

Jon Rom: Ambition rigidity, brevity wit.

Jonathan Friedman: Just like that mongoose.

Jon Rom: Exactly smart, witty like a Mongoose brief like a snake.

And I think, I think we're, we're getting a lot of understanding because not, not only that it's been two months since we've heard from Dwight, he's been busy, he's been doing stuff, you know, he's it seems to me like he's wrapped up in whatever's going on over a Dunder Mifflin, and he's still trying to climb that ladder.

And not, not much has changed, you know, he's kept on plugging away the same way he was plugging before. And he still feels like he can't get to be king of the castle until Jim is out of the way.

Jonathan Friedman: Yeah. And when we first took a look at his first journal, the one where he was talking about his speed and his one day taking over Dunder Mifflin and his relationship with Jim and Pam I said it right that time way to go me...

Jon Rom: Crushed It

Jonathan Friedman: We're much more sure and much more clear about Dwight's intentions. He wants to become the ruler of Dunder, Mifflin that even the manager, not just a leader, he wants to spend the time to work himself to the top and he feels, and it's much clear now.

He's been being served these roadblocks daily. And this is something I think that a lot of us kind of go through with working in small, medium, and large businesses. And even in families, we have these like weird hierarchical, hierarchical structures that sort of. Exists in our minds or exists in like a corporate structure, something like that.

And there's competition. Some people are always trying to outpace us, do things a bit differently than us. And it can be challenging. And for Dwight, it seems that He's taken by Jim and his, his schemes. I think you've

Jon Rom: done a really good job identifying the beliefs that Dwight has.

But I wonder how would you go about challenging those beliefs?

Jonathan Friedman: So John can you remind me, what the heck that means again, it's it's my first day on. So,

Jon Rom: so it's about finding the crux of how they view their problem and bringing to light the conveniences assumptions or pitfalls in those beliefs. And, you know, we do this by you guessed it, asking more questions.

Jonathan Friedman: So. When I'm looking at this, reply that, again, coming back to that rigidity, that mongoose like tenacity, the thing I am thinking about is, you know, thinking about things around parenting and behavior and thinking about ignoring these sorts of outbursts, that it seems that Jim is having. So if Jim is doing things. I don't even know something as crazy as putting staplers into jello. I don't know why I thought of that. It is just first foolish prank that comes to my mind, but, and

Jon Rom: it's something that's happened to all of us at some point in our lives.

Jonathan Friedman: It doesn't stop happening, man.

Jon Rom: Yeah. Well, I, you know, it's because of the abundant jealousy applied.

Jonathan Friedman: Yeah, it's too much. There's too much jello. My roommate recently put in my French press into a VAT of jello. The coffee's tasted weird ever

Jon Rom: since. I think that we don't have to have a jello aisle in every supermarket in Canada, but that's my personal opinion.

Jonathan Friedman: Have you noticed that jello sometimes isn't even in the dessert aisle, it's in like the crackers aisle, it's like a separate section that's just for jello.

Jon Rom: Yeah. If it doesn't have its own, you know, the whole department in the supermarket at this point,

Jonathan Friedman: who's in charge of purchasing. Who makes those decisions? Is there like a chief jello officer?

Jon Rom: Oh, you want to get, you want to get me started on big jello again?

Jonathan Friedman: Yeah, I think I do.

Jon Rom: Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. There's not enough time on a podcast to talk about big Jell-O I need a whole documentary.

Jonathan Friedman: You're like, I think you shan't talk about Big Jello. So one of the questions I want to ask Dwight. Is if you went to work and pretended like Jim and Pam or Jim and PIM, however you want to look at it, aren't even there w nothing they do exist in your day. What would your day look like? Would you be happier? Would you feel better?

What would your relationships with other people in the office change? That's kind of where I would want to start. What do you think?

Jon Rom: I see where you're coming from. Yeah. It's, it's, it's hard to imagine a world without your obstacles, but when you're challenged to do so, you see what's really what you're going for.

What, what are you after and what are you working towards?

Jonathan Friedman: Dwight is a, as we've mentioned, probably I think a million times already on this episode is that. Dwight has this rigidity, this tenacity, he has his sights set on this goal. And for someone with that much tenacity to let something simple, like staple jello, get in his way, something doesn't quite match up.

And for me as Dwight's coach, even with his short answers, there's a lot to work with. There's that extra feeling that he's so strong-willed. And I want to challenge him by saying maybe Jay Jim and Pam don't matter, maybe anything about the office other than his goals and the things that make him happy matter.

Maybe he has a relationship with somebody in accounting and that's something that brings them a lot more joy than Jimmy.

Jon Rom: Yeah, it's, it's, it's not focusing on the liver, not focusing on the bad part of your day, not focusing on the thing that you're trying to avoid, but instead, you know, keeping, keeping your eyes on the things that give you motivation and strengthen the momentum to keep going through.

Jonathan Friedman: It's like some wise curly hair lady always says what you focus on grows. And if you can focus on the shit, the stuff that's in your day, that feels awful... and you spend a lot of your mind and your time thinking about that. That's all you're going to be thinking about. And it's going to start to consume.

Instead, we can focus on the parts of our day that feel good. Maybe the manager at this Dunder Mifflin is giving us a little more responsibility and some room to experiment more as a ruler and as a leader and let us play around and try what it means to be a ruler.

Jon Rom: Exactly. Right. Huh.

Well, you focus on grows. That'd be a good

Jonathan Friedman: book title.

Now on Amazon for 1999, link in the description

Jon Rom: Gonna quickly look if that's the actual price and I am not really typing, so I didn't check, but you can go check for yourself.

Jonathan Friedman: It's free on Kindle though.

Jon Rom: Oh, okay. Yeah. Get it on Kindle. Yeah. Get it on Kindle.

Jonathan Friedman: Save the trees.

Jon Rom: Save the trees, even though the paper is free and it grows on.

Jonathan Friedman: Yeah, but also if you buy the paperback copy, we'll be helping our pal Dwight out if that's really what he does. Oh yeah. That's true. So, I mean, no matter which way you look at it, you're doing a great, some good work.


Jon Rom: we going to, do you think we're ever going to hear from Dwight again, considering how how

Jonathan Friedman: busy he is?

I think we will. So I'm going to send that reply back to him and hopefully, he'll get a notification of sorts on whatever device he uses. I feel like he has a Motorola razor or something like that.

And we'll, we'll see what he says.

Jon Rom: Let's do it

Jonathan Friedman: so we did get a reply from Dwight. It's been another couple of months. He's a busy, busy guy. So it seems like a lot has changed. I think that's interesting. John is it cool if I give him his journal or read it.

Jon Rom: I grew a beard, so that's that way, you know, the time has passed.

Jonathan Friedman: That would look good on you. What kind of style are you? Are you sporting...

Jon Rom: a villain goatee and nothing else?

Jonathan Friedman: It's like. Perfectly like taper to the face except for the bottom, which just has that little point.

Jon Rom: Yep, exactly. Right. And the point is a tip with poison.

Jonathan Friedman: If you were a villain in any superhero supervillain dynamic, which would it be?

Jon Rom: I think Lex Luther has. A lot going for him outside of the Superman thing. Like, yes, he is definitely obsessed with Superman and that is his downfall, but he was also president for a bit there. So it seems like he has his life together.

You know, everyone, every other villain I can think of is, is so preoccupied that they can't even participate in a real-life, at least Lexus. Living his best life when he isn't being foiled by that a darn no goods.

Jonathan Friedman: Whenever I think of goatees. I think of supervillains. But whenever I think of like, who has a goateed in superhero movies, I always somehow think of Dr. Strange, which begs the question is Dr. Strange a supervillain, like why else would they get Benedict Cumberbatch to play him?

Jon Rom: You know what I mean? Benedict Cumberbatch does have a strong evil energy rating off of him at any given time. But I, and that's what I appreciate about.

Jonathan Friedman: Benedict Timothy Carlton Cumberbatch

Jon Rom: that that could be made up, but it sounds incredibly accurate

Jonathan Friedman: if it isn't made up man...,

Jon Rom: you just know that well, you're even best friends with Benedict since since

Jonathan Friedman: youth.

Yeah. I was born in the UK and that's where our friendship started since elementary.

Jon Rom: Yeah. Well, yeah. Well, all those years in acting school, really paid off for both of you. I would

Jonathan Friedman: say the gift doesn't stop giving. So

Jon Rom: what did he, what did he, yeah, sorry. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're right. Sorry. What?

We've been waiting this long to hear from Dwight. I'm the edge of my seat is even edgier.

Jonathan Friedman: Careful you might fall. Alright. Alright. So here's Dwight's journal. So a lot has changed over the past while Jim has been busy with his offspring. And what's her name again? Ham. That's right. I am now the regional manager and I'm getting married to my monkey, Angela at the beet farm.

Of course, it will be the wedding or Hachseit du Jahres, as we Shrutes, like to say, I guess things do work out after all. Life is good at the top.

Jon Rom: Jam, Pim & Ham. Perfect family.

Jonathan Friedman: Perfect trio. Holy Trinity. So reading this journal is interesting while we wanted to start to understand in the past journal or the past reply, we wanted to understand what would happen if Dwight would just ignore Jim.

But it seems like that kind of just happened. Jim has been busy with, as Dwight puts it, his offspring and his. Ham. And he's probably been pulling fewer pranks and getting in Dwight's way a little less at the office. And it seems that as a result of Dwight's focus on work and not having to worry about that, all that other stuff, he is now the regional manager and getting married.

Jon Rom: It's it looks like things worked out for him. Jonathan, I'm curious. Did you, did you incept this idea into his mind? Way back when we were, we got back to him a couple of months ago or were, where you kind of encouraging him to focus on what he wanted to grow for months and months and months just sending him positive vibes and good, good intentions.

Jonathan Friedman: Well, even when we have someone like a Dwight who's, you know, responding short response writing a new journal every couple of months, we're always checking in between to sort of, you know, share those positive vibes. And while on our site, we don't always know if Dwight is reading, we always want to be sharing those vibes.

Even with the few journals that Dwight has sent, he shows up, he's doing the work in his way and we're here for that. So we've been sending positive vibes, a couple of gifs, or jifs, I'm not sure what you call them. Are they gifs or jifs?

Jon Rom: I call them Chiffs

Jonathan Friedman: Do you now...

Jon Rom: Yeah, in the original Spanish, I believe if that's how they're pronounced.

Jonathan Friedman: So one of the things that are also interesting here compared to the past reply is that Dwight is now sharing a bit more about his relationship. And it seems that when he was able to not have to worry about the other things that are happening in the office, he's able to focus on the things that he does enjoy in this case, his monkey, Angela, and his beat farm, and being regional manager, having that leadership.

And also, it seems like he knows German.

Jon Rom: Yeah, no kidding. What's that was that your, I honestly couldn't tell, but I think that he's, he's reorganized his priorities a little bit and, and that, that can take a lot of time. But when you have someone in your life that, that gets you getting out of bed in the morning, it becomes a lot easier.

So, I think things worked out. I also noticed. You know, he is at the top, he's at the top and we don't even know if he, if he, oh, no, we do. He became regional manager. Nevermind. But we do know that he could, he has equated being at the top with also being in love and acting on that. And it sounds to me like he's filled his life with more than just disdain for his coworkers.

Jonathan Friedman: Yeah. And he said life is good at the top. And really what we're doing in coaching all the time is we're focusing on bringing greater peace, ease, and joy into our clients' lives and seeing something that's as relieving to hear as life is good at the top is nice for us to hear coaches.

So that's, that's great! Way to go Dwight!

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